![]() ![]() It was approached with the attitude of "this needs to be the best shooting competition platform available". The Honcho design was not limited by anything initially. If the attributes mentioned were felt to be necessary, they would have been addressed/added. Any consensus on how the pistol performed was addressed. ![]() My comment was based on the fact that many experienced shooters gave input on how the Honcho felt/shot before the design was finalized. ![]() And if there are any in your area you can try out in person - Tiffany We can also direct you to Honcho owners (besides our team shooters) who would be happy to share their thoughts and how the gun shoots. One with a comp for open and the other with a sight block for limited. Like how both models come with two 9mm barrels. We can answer all of your questions and give you the best info. but for 3 gun use, Atlas has options like the Erebus which have a fixed island comp, which I'm sure still has some advantage over no comp at all even with minor ammo (although it might not be a huge difference). In particular, I think what Atlas is doing with the slightly shorter 4.6" slides (with comp set further back) on 9mm guns does make a difference (reducing reciprocating mass, better timing/cycling).Īnd, of course, on the 9mm limited barrel, Phoenix Trinity made this probably specifically for Limited minor, which is why it has no comp. After all, they are somewhat limited by the design, right? Because you can swap barrels & calibers, that means all barrels must be the same length, etc. Hmm, I'm not sure that's necessarily true though. ![]() There is an argument to be had that the versatility might even be worth it if it's not quite as flat or doesn't return to zero as well, but if it IS just as flat, then that makes it more of a no brainer since you're getting more for your money. The versatility of being able to switch barrels is super appealing, but $5000-$6000 is a lot of money. I'm mostly just curious to see whether anyone has had the chance to compare to other high end 2011s, like Atlas & Limcat. I think a lot of people would like to have the option of using a Trijicon RMR or the new SRO or the Holosun 507C (same footprint as the RMR/SRO). It would be cool if they offered different mounting plates for the 3 gun slide ride version though. Atlas & Tevo both make mounts for it, & Cheely is working on one. IMO, the 510C is the best reflex optic on the market right now (crisp dot, largest window, green dot option). you are just gaining a ton of versatility and value. IF you wanted to change to a Holosun, you could swap the mount for any standard pattern optic mount.īottom line is, you really aren't giving up ANYTHING with the Honcho, shoot-ability, function, options, or otherwise. The current included optic mount will also allow you to use the Vortex, a Cmore RTS2, or a DPP. My wife has several Open guns, some with holes, some with hybrid barrels, etc, she much prefers the way her Honcho shoots. If it needed or would have benefited from some of the attributes you listed, they most likely would have been included. There was a TON of time and testing (from several shooters) put into making the Honcho shoot great. It it one of the softest shooting, least violent Open guns I've ever shot. You shouldn't have any concerns of how the Honcho "feels" or shoots. Wondering if anyone has had a chance to actually compare how they shoot and has any thoughts about flatness/return to zero/etc. Overall, I'm super interested in the Honcho because of its versatility, but there are trade-offs. Does anyone know whether or not the open major version's frame mount holes are the common pattern? Could you buy an Atlas mount for a Holoson 510C (or whatever) and use it on the Honcho? The mounts are only for Vortex optics, and they haven't said anything about offering alternative plates/mounts for other optics. Other downsides to the Honcho: not much flexibility when it comes to optics. but a side effect of this is you can actually run minor 9mm ammo in the open barrel w/ comp without problems (seen in a few youtube videos), which is cool if you want to use it for more than just open. For example, Atlas cuts down the slide to 4.6" for faster cycling, and there are no barrel popple holes on the Honcho like there are on the RazorCat & Chaos, no fixed island comp on the minor 9mm version like on the Erebus (or Omni/DVC-P), etc. However, does the Honcho actually shoot as flat? It seems like the versatility comes at the cost of some refinement/details. There's also the fact that many other companies, including Atlas, use the Phoenix Trinity Evo grip. You simply don't get this with the competitors. Purely from a value-for-the-money perspective, the Honcho is pretty tempting, since it can run both major and minor 9mm, different calibers, etc. Has anyone here had the opportunity to try both a Honcho and a Limcat RazorCat or Atlas Chaos/Erebus? ![]()
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